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Thai class

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Posted on Monday, August 23rd, 2010. No Comments »

Our approach to language learning for study abroad at ISDSI is based on functional competency — we want the students to be active learners and able to use Thai to function in everyday interactions as well as while learning in the villages where our Expedition Field Courses take place.

And it is active!

Here are a few photos from the first morning, with students learning some basic words (mostly “come here!”).

(click on the thumbnail to enlarge and scroll through the photos)

Orientation…

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Posted on Saturday, August 21st, 2010. No Comments »

For each semester, the students arrive throughout the day on Friday.  To make it easier on our Thai host families, we have the families pick the students up the next day on Saturday.

Ajaan Wilasinee teaching the "wai" greeting to the students (with Pi Ben and Pi Pu helping)

We spend about an hour with the students talking about dress, behavior in the host family, and answering questions.  We stress the idea of “cultural competence” — knowing the culture makes you safer, and helps you to learn more and better enjoy your time in Thailand.

Students learning the Thai way of greeting...

After the orientation, the students are picked up by their families and we don’t see them until Monday — when the full orientation week starts with intensive Thai and other topics (health/safety/program policies, etc.)!

A weekend with a Thai host family does a lot to increase motivation for learning the language!

Coastal Ecology and Culture

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Posted on Wednesday, May 19th, 2010. No Comments »

The final course of the spring semester study abroad program at ISDSI is our course on Coastal Ecology and Culture.  This is the capstone of the semester, and brings together leadership skills, cross cultural and language skills, as well as expedition skills so that the students can study the reefs, sea grass, mangroves and local communities in Trang, Southern Thailand.

Here are a few photos taken by our instructor, Pi Ben, to give you a bit of a feel of what the course is like.

The prow of a new longtail boat on Mook island.

Krissy and Nikki paddling in on a double seakayak.

Ben sea kaking, leaving the beach for the crossing to Mook island.

Ben and Karen, leaders of the day, explaining the day's route by sea kayak.

Ben landing on the beach and pulling up his kayak. The ISDSI support boat in the background.

Dinner with a view. Camping on the beach in Trang.

Karen padding into the beach.

A longtail crossing by after a storm.

Karen and Ben, leaders of the day, sorting out the kayaks after a day's paddle.

Riley identifying different types of seagrass during a study of seagrass ecology and dugong feeding behavior.

A real pirate cave -- a great location for a seminar by Bang Hed, a village elder, about mangroves and community. (The pirates have been gone for a long time... at least that's what Bang Hed says...)

Jack and his host family, Baan Iet, Ja Mai, Nong Chock, and Nong Lin.

Pi Noi, usually in the office, but also working the occasional field course, and Pi Toto, field instructor.

The host families of Jao Mai village with their students.

Mid-course seminar with Ajaan Mark. ISDSI field seminar rooms don't have WiFi, but we like them!

Ben watching the sunset over the Andaman Sea.

Sustainability in Chiang Mai

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Posted on Wednesday, February 24th, 2010. No Comments »

The last week of the Foundations course the students at ISDSI fan out over the city and study four sustainability indicators — walkability, traffic, the use/health of the Ping river, and the food systems of Chiang Mai (looking at organic food, the size of the foodshed, etc.).  The students split into four groups, and each group spends Monday planning, Tuesday and Wednesday gathering data, Thursday doing data analysis, and then Friday on a presentation.

Nikki and Jack talking about "som" (tangerines) in both supermarkets and fresh (wet) markets.

Nikki and Jack talking about "som" (tangerines) in both supermarkets and fresh (wet) markets.

It is always fun to see what creative ways students work out to learn about sustainability in the city.  This semester the rivers group borrowed a couple of ISDSI’s sit-on-top kayaks and paddled down the Ping river, the food systems group decided to focus on oranges/tangerines as a proxy for broader food system dynamics, the traffic group looked a cars and “public” or at least “mass” transportation, and the walking group tried to figure out how difficult it was to walk in different places in the city.

Molly and Taylor discussing the challenges of walking in the city center.

Molly and Taylor discussing the challenges of walking in the city center.

The papers are here as pdf files:

Krissy and her group did a great job working out the challenges of walking, and how even the idea of walking around the city is culturally mediated.

Krissy and her group did a great job working out the challenges of walking, and how even the idea of walking around the city is culturally mediated.

On Friday we were joined by Khun Pim Kemasingki, the editor of Chiang Mai CityLife magazine, a well known English language magazine published in Chiang Mai for almost 20 years. Khun Pim was great — having grown up in Chiang Mai she was able to add a lot of historical background, and with her position as editor, she understands the challenges of sustainability for Chiang Mai city. It was great for the students as well to get another perspective on the city, and the role of culture, language and politics in sustainability. (Also check out CityLife’s page on going carbon neutral.)

Ajaan Christina, Ajaan Mark and Khun Pim were the discussants for the presentations.

Ajaan Christina, Ajaan Mark and Khun Pim were the discussants for the presentations.

The students learned a lot about the city that is there home for this semester, got out into places tourists don’t often go, and were able to pull together research involving both social science and ecology. Well done all!

Matt explains the traffic and how it all fits together.

Matt explains the traffic and how it all fits together.

Homestay farewells

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Posted on Tuesday, February 16th, 2010. 1 Comment »

Last week was the final week of the 5 week homestay. To thank the families and to gather as a community, we hosted a farewell dinner and party with the families, students, instructors and staff of ISDSI.  We ate out under the stars near the foot of Doi Suthep mountain, at the side of a lake (for those who know Chiang Mai, along the canal road near the 700 year stadium).  It was a traditional “kantoke” dinner, with everyone sitting on mats on the ground, eating off a small round “kantoke” table filled with sticky rice, curry, steamed vegetables, and other Northern Thai food.

In addition to the dinner, there was a local group of youth performing traditional songs and dances, and then the ISDSI students performed as well. Alone or in pairs, students and their families prepared songs (in Thai!) as well as traditional dances.  It was a great time, and we all enjoyed it immensely.  Here are some photos taken by Pi Ben of the event.

Lindsey's host family getting her ready.

Lindsey's host family getting her ready.

Kristen and Jill doing a traditional Lanna Thai dance with their host sisters.

Kristen and Jill doing a traditional Lanna Thai dance with their host sisters.

Nail dance

Nikki doing the nail dance with her host sisters.

Krissy singing in Thai "Sao Chiang Mai" (Chiang Mai Maiden), a well loved Northern Thai folk song.

Krissy singing in Thai "Sao Chiang Mai" (Chiang Mai Maiden), a well loved Northern Thai folk song.

Ajaan Wilasanee (pictured) and Pi Pu were the MCs for the event and did a terrific job jumping between Thai and English explaining the dances and songs.

Ajaan Wilasanee (pictured) and Pi Pu were the MCs for the event and did a terrific job jumping between Thai and English explaining the dances and songs.

Pi Pu introducing the students, who sang in Thai "Bang khon kin khanom pang" (or "Some people eat bread") a folk song celebrating eating sticky rice, the Northern Thai staple. The song starts saying "Some people eat bread..." but goes on to say "but I eat sticky rice" -- which, since Westerners all eat bread, is really funny. (Note too the families taking photos like it is a UN press conference.)

Pi Pu introducing the students (some out of the frame), who sang in Thai "Bang khon kin khanom pang" (or "Some people eat bread") a folk song celebrating eating sticky rice, the Northern Thai staple. The song starts saying "Some people eat bread..." but goes on to say "but I eat sticky rice" -- which, since Westerners "all" eat bread, is especially fun when Western students sing it. It celebrates that the students have embraced Thai culture -- eating rice and singing in Thai. (Note too the families taking photos like it is a UN press conference.)

Student blogs for spring

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Posted on Friday, February 5th, 2010. No Comments »
A "rot daeng" or "song taew" (two-bencher).  A common mode of transportation for students.

A "rot daeng" or "song taew" (two-bencher). A common mode of transportation for students.

This spring semester several of the students are blogging their experiences.  Check them out for some great insights into Thai culture, homestays, and their adventures in Thailand! Here are some excerpts (with spelling and grammar left as is…)

Jack:

I’ll wake up every morning at around 5:45 AM when it is still dark out, but two hours after the roosters have started keekaakaaing around my window. When I can finally drag myself out of bed (usually around 6) I’ll shower, brush my teeth, and get dressed in my school uniform (white collared short sleeve shirt and black pants) so as to look reep roy (proper/put together).

I’ll eat breakfast and then bike ten minutes down the road to highway 118, where I can park my bike for 5 baat (~15 cents) at a small cafe/restaurant for the day. From there, I catch a rot luuang downtown, where I switch the the rot dang (red bus) that will take me to ISDSI. The ‘buses’ I refer to are actually called song tow, which means two benches, and pretty much describes the nature of the vehicle. They can comfortably fit around 10 people inside, though when adding those who hang off the back (often me) and the occasional person who rides on top, I have seen song tows hold up to 23 people, though two of the passengers I am counting are infants.

Caroline:

“You have to be at school by 7:30am. What time do you usually get to school?”
“7:00am or 7:05am.”
“Okay. We’ll drive you so you won’t be late.”

That was part of last night’s dinner conversation. I got to school at 6:50am (a new record) today. Usually I take public transit and get to school pretty early, but my host parents wanted to be sure I was more than on time today.

Lindsey:

Farming in Mae Taa.

Farming in Mae Taa.

On this farm they began growing banana plants 20 years ago because they sprout up quickly giving shade to smaller plants. At the same time they planted mango trees as well as some smaller plant species like pineapple. After several years, the mango trees grew taller than the banana trees and began to choke them out. While at a “normal” farm this would be seen as a bad thing, the banana trees on this organic farm served their purpose, and the remains went back into the ground to fertilize the next wave of plant life.

The farm we visited was only on a couple of acres of land, but it had over 80 species of plants! It also included a small pond with tilapia. Chickens or other animals feed on vegetable/plant leftovers on the land, then the tilapia eat the chicken poop. Tilapia are very efficient, easily grown fish that provide an easy source of protein for the farmers.

Betsy:

Weekends are generally a good thing, but for some reason I had an absolutely spectacular weekend. It started with our group from ISDSI (17 students and 3 instructors) heading out to a site outside of Chiang Mai called “Crazy Horse”. Crazy Horse is a site for a series of caves and cliffs. We spent the morning exploring a couple different caves and learning about the different features of caves. We then zip-lined across one cave to a stalactite and repelled down 150 feet! It was pretty thrilling. We had lunch and then spent the afternoon rock-climbing the cliffs outside of the cave. I’m not the best climber, but I was surprised to find that I was very capable of climbing the different rock faces. I spent Friday night with my host family, and singing chereokee with Nong Yeem (my younger sister).

Saturday came and for the first time in about a week I got to sleep in! (til 9! haha…) I ate breakfast and did some homework, and then my Paw said that I needed to relax from my long day of climbing….so….our family went to the hot springs outside of the city! My afternoon was pretty harsh….taking a hot mineral bath (pretty much like a hot tub) and ending the day with a Thai massage. The hot springs are a popular picnic area, and when people eat at the hot springs, they boil eggs in the hot spring! haha it’s pretty sweet! My Paw asked me if I wanted an egg, and I said yes, so he popped an egg into the hot spring bath for about 3 minutes and bam! soft boiled egg!

Ben:

Fried crickets.  Yum!

Fried crickets. Yum!

After three weeks of Thai class four hours a day and living in a Thai family my Thai has improved. This is something that is so rewarding as you begin to understand reading and writing more and more, and your speaking and comprehension of the language expands. This knowledge can be used immediately and enables you to communicate with your Thai family better and also understand the culture you are living in better. It is a great feeling to make progress especially against the challenges of the Tonal language with an alphabet that borrows from Sanskrit. I have a long way to go, but I am sure to get better with the 44 consonants, 32 vowels, and the 5 tones.

Riley:

The Thai dinner table is the perfect setting for asking questions. Is this an animal or vegetable? Can you eat this(said with perfect sincerity)?
To the undiscerning eye your best luck is to simply watch what the locals do with the items on their plate.
Things do not become that much clearer even if you prepare the food yourself. I went to a Thai buffet. They bring hot coals to your table while you pick from dozens of raw meats which you will fry yourself. Seeing the food both before and after cooking it brings only marginally more enlightenment.
Tonight for dinner my host mother taugh me to make sweet green curry with chicken. While this seems straight forward one of the main ingredients is coagulated chicken blood. The most disturbing part is that the blood doesnt dissipate but instead remains as chunks that resemble soft tofu as you eat them. The dish was delicious despite the blood.
There are a lot of things I eat that I cant decipher but most of these things taste good in the end.

Fish in a barrel

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Posted on Wednesday, February 3rd, 2010. 2 Comments »

A friend of ours, Randy Bevis, introduced us to the idea of running a barrelponics system at ISDSI.  Randy runs a development project north of Chiang Mai city where they raise fish for stocking aquaculture ponds in local communities.  We looked into the system, and found a great resource online at F.A.S.T with the barrelponics manual and more information on aquaponics in general. This January on of the ISDSI students from Kalamazoo College, Adam Smith, decided to take on the project, and as part of his J-Term independent study built a barrelponics system at ISDSI, where it is now running with fish (tilapia) and growing vegetables. It is a great small scale system, and we are going to run it and monitor the system to see how we can adapt it to urban sustainability projects — as well as provide fish and vegetables for ISDSI.

The basic idea is to link fish with hydroponic vegetable production, where the fish waste provides nutrients to the plants, and the plants in turn clean the water for the fish.  The only input needs to be fish feed, since energy is taken out of the system in the form of plants and fish.

Here are some photos of the build and an explanation of the system.

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The system before loading in the gravel for the hydroponic beds.

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Adam linking together the grow beds and the fish barrel. The gravel deformed the barrels, so we added a strap to keep them from deforming too much.

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Water from the fish barrel is pumped up to a float tank, and then as it fills a recycled water bottle, it opens a valve (the same as in a toilet) and water flows into the system. This shows the gravel beds and the fish tank.

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The first test of the water flowing into the gravel beds -- the water flows in, and then drains into the fish tank before cycling back up through the system.

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The whole system -- you can see the tank that holds the water, the water bottle that fills and empties to trigger the valve opening, and the pipes into the grow beds. You can also see the vegetables starting to grow in the gravel beds.

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Before the vegetables were big enough to clean the water, Adam found the ammonia levels going up, so we went to the Ping River and pulled out some water hyacynth to help filter the water. (Lydia was more than willing to get her hands dirty and wet...)

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The float tank with water hyacynth and water lettuce helping filter the water. We can pull these out as the vegetables get bigger.

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Adam explaining the system to students at ISDSI.

Congratulations to Adam on a job well done!

Rice Harvest

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Posted on Tuesday, February 2nd, 2010. No Comments »

Congratulations to Francesca Aguirre-Wong (Franchie) from our Fall 2009 Semester!  Franchie won an award at the the University of Denver Study Abroad photo contest, and the photo was displayed at the Global Gala.

The long awaited rice harvest, Huay Tong Kaw village, Mae Hong Son province.

The long awaited rice harvest, Huay Tong Kaw village, Mae Hong Son province.

Franchie is a senior, and an Ecology and Biodiversity major at the University of Denver.  Franchie writes about the photo:

The Karen people have been using shifting cultivation to grow rice for over 100 years to live in harmony with their forest. The students are helping harvest rice (a process that takes 2-3 weeks) while chatting in Thai to learn about farming techniques and the culture that exists around the rice harvest.

Here is the rest of her email:

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Sawasdika!

I am sure you have heard this plenty of times, but America is so strange! I am constantly aware of feet and I always bow my head in humble respect. Ally and I were talking about this, and we feel so much more grown up and that everything just seems clearer. My time in Thailand truely made me into a better person, daughter, sister, friend, student, leader, and outdoor adventurer. My only regret is waiting till my last year in college to do all this growing!

Thank you so much for giving us the opportunity to work with all the amazing people at ISDSI and in Thailand. It was difficult to see ISDSI’s rhyme and reason for some things while i was in the program, but now that I step back, it all makes so much more sense. Bravo for creating one of the most unique programs in the world that succeeds in challenging and changing their students.

PS- I have attached a photo taken in Huay Tong Kaw that won me $75 in the Study Abroad Photo Contest. A 24×36 print was displayed at the Global Gala this year (which i unfortunately didn’t attend due to poor-student syndrome). If it is possible, can you please tell Muga Nepal (the woman in the white hat) and her husband (the man addressing the camera) that a photo of them and their beautiful rai won a contest seen by many students, ajaans, and families. I think it would make them really proud and happy!

Please give everyone an elegant wai for me :)

Sincerely,
Francesca Aguirre-Wong
Ecology & Biodiversity
University of Denver

Fall blogging

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Posted on Tuesday, September 8th, 2009. No Comments »
Playing guitar and singing on the Fall Retreat

Playing guitar and singing on the Fall Retreat

The students are here for our fall semester, and as is usual, a lot of them are blogging.  Great insights into a student’s take on their experience in the program, and what it is like.  We’ve just completed two weeks of the program (one week orientation, and one week of block 1, Foundations).  The students are doing great, diving into the language learning (with all of its challanges and rewards) and getting to know Chiang Mai and Thai culture, both on their own and with their host families.

The host families are great — they love the students and enjoy how hard the students are working to learn Thai. It can be a big adjustment for both sides — for the American students living in a strange family with a different culture and way of doing things; and for the host family, adapting to a new addition to the family who does all sorts of things in different ways.

Here are a few entries from Ellen’s reflections on the first couple of weeks:

Inspired by our jam session at the retreat, when I got home on Sunday I finally got up the courage to ask my host dad if I could play the guitar in our living room. He was so excited that I was playing, and we really bonded over the guitar. After I finished playing, he showed me a video of his band, which is really interesting. I guess it’s the Thai equivilent to American country, and it’s easily the best Thai music I’ve heard so far (I’ve discovered that I am not a big fan of Thai pop music). According to Ajaan Wilasannee, my Thai teacher and one of the host family coordinators, Paw Boi’s band immatates a pretty famous Thai band. If I can find this band on YouTube, I’ll post a link. Before last night, I was having a hard time getting to know my host dad, but music ended up being a really great way to bond a little bit.  (For more, read Ellen in Thailand)

Some great stuff from Gigi writing about the struggles of learning Thai:

The more I withdraw the harder it is to get back onboard the Thai Train. The more I just in, and fail, and jump in, the better things get. At lunch, Marcia’s notebook gave me just the right sound advice. It says: “Happiness is a how, not a what. A talent, not an object.” … Last night, the family watched a T.V. show that included magic vampires that tturned into smoke, tried to lure people into elevators, and were terrified of guinie pigs. in the middle of the show, a girl feel into a river as a boy was trying to seduce her (i think) and i looked up from my homework a shouted “Y-nom! Y-nom” swim swim! and the whole family laughed.

Do also read her entry about the waterfall at the retreat weekend (Mok Fa):

The best spot was just behind the right had falls. Although the two falls had pilled sand between them, so you could stand calf deep between the two, to get behind the right had fall you had to swim there. … The fall poured down in front of us, over us. It was a narrow space, I could reach out and touch the fall.– when you looked up, it was the most beautiful thing I had ever seen. The water lept out over the dark rock, the rocketing fairy droplets wizzed which and every which way. There was such a scale to it all, a grand scale and an intimacy. I want my whole life to be like that – grand and intimate. Breathing each moment, with a cool rush, powerful. … I liked to float away from the falls on my back and look up at them, the water jumping off the rocks high up, and the pounding mist. I can’t say it was more real than normal life, or as real, it wasn’t real. It was just wonderful. (Read more at Gigi’s Thailand blog.)

Julie captures well the joy of living with a host family:

My host family. They are AMAZING. My Mom and Dad are so tiny, adorable, and excited. My Dad is always walking around with the goofiest smile on his face, while my Mom tries so hard to speak with me in English. We are usually succesful, after about 5 tries. Then, I have two little sisters. Feun is 12 and Fai is 7. They are both learning English in school, so Feun is extremely helpful in facilatating conversations between me and the rest of the family. Fai can be summed up almost perfectly in one word: monkey. She is constantly running around, singing, dancing, and making mischief. They are always really excited to see me– especially Fai who runs up yelling “Pi Julie! Pi Julie!” It’s really fun for me, since I have never had a younger sibling or a sister. One Grandma also lives in the house. She is in a wheelchair because she has neither of her legs, though I am not sure why. And she is SO impressive. She cooks, cleans, and even gardens. She doesn’t know any English but is so joyful and always smiling at me. I’m so appreciative because I can tell that they are so excited to have me stay with them. They have never hosted a foreign student before, but are always trying to teach me things, show me things, and take me places. I am convinced that a homestay is the best way to really live in and know a different culture. When else would I get a first hand look at Thai dance lessons? Or eat authentic home cooked Thai food in a family setting? Or be the only foreigner in a sea of Thai people? (Read more at My Life in Thailand)

Here is a good picture of daily homestay life from Cody, and how Thai language is going:

My host family is so great and love helping me learn Thai. Last night we spent an hour working on reading and writing Thai. My host mother is so goofy and jokes around with me all of the time. Several nights ago we hung up my laundry in the dark and I wore my headlamp. She had never seen one before and she laughed and laughed.

Ahh! I’m euphoric! My host parents are so great! Tonight the Thai was flowing. I even understood my host mother without even trying–granted the context helped. We were at the dinner table and she said to my host father, “Cody likes mangoes more than she likes rice.” I laughed and she looked at me shocked and asked, “did you understand me?”

I shouldn’t have told my host mother that I’d be sad when mangoes go out of season because today she went out and bought 2 kilos of mangoes just for me. I had three tonight! (Read more at Cody in Thailand)

A few of Franchie’s observations on culture shock:

  • Use fork in left hand to push food onto spoon in your right hand
  • the “Wai” =thai way of saying hello by putting your hands in prayer position and bowing your head to them
  • Take your shoes off before you enter any home (love this, but I still mess this up at least once a week)
  • Thais dont say “bless you” after you sneeze
  • Eat 3 rice meals a day with at least 2-3 snacks in between
  • Wai your elder to say hello and goodbye
  • Smelling someone’s cheek = “thai kiss” (this whole time I just thought that MaeToy was giving me the smell check)
  • Women must walk like China dolls (no running)…even in the pouring rain
  • Never sit higher than an elder. Example: if an elder sits on the floor, you must move to the floor. Or if you pass through a room where an elder is sitting, you must hunch by.
  • Never touch someone’s head (the most sacred part of the body)
  • Thais will talk good and bad about you (in Thai or English) infront of you.
  • It is okay to call someone fat
  • Parents dont encourage their children to diet or eat healthy (happy IS healthy)
  • NEVER wash your underwear or socks with clothes (always handwash and hang in a concealed area)
  • Stop eating before you are hungry to save room for that extra food parents will put on your plate
  • Shower with toilet seat up
  • Picking your nose in public is OK
  • Wash feet before you go to bed
  • My neighbors take showers and sing in the back yard (more at Toast in Thailand)

A couple more student blogs are Life in the Land of Smiles and Hannah’s Trip to Thailand.  I’m sure there are some others that I’ve missed. Enjoy!

Back down from the mountain

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Posted on Tuesday, May 19th, 2009. No Comments »

Our students have just returned from our Forests course studying political ecology and the relationship of the Karen tribal people with the mountain forests that is their home.  Long days in the mountains and rai, weaving naturally dyed cloth, eating “mu-sa-to” (delicious Karen chili paste), and learning from our tribal colleagues and teachers.  This course is one of our oldest, and shows how wonderful learning can happen with village teachers and collaborative curriculum design.

Here are a few excerpts from student blogs and some photos.

In Ban Hui Hee, a Karen woman spinning thread. (from Jeremy)

Spinning.

Spinning.

Another photo of spinning thread from Ally:

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Grandmother.

Ally also wrote about her host mother:

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Mom

My beautiful host mother is one of the most loving people I have ever met. She spoke very little Thai, but was extremely excited to teach me about her culture. I have never seen anyone shower people with love and care the same way that she did. She taught me so much. Thank you.

Writing more about host families (from Johnny)

the host families were truly amazing. just in a matter of days, the connections we had with these people and their community were unexplainable. we would eat, sleep, work, and sit with them, yes, but in every village we would all meet together as a community so we students could ask them questions about their livelihoods. sometimes we would sing american songs for them and they would sing karen songs back, and the joy that we all felt was wonderful.

Click over to his blog for more on why we study with the Karen, and have them as our teachers:

we visited all these communities because of what they all had in common- their relationship with the forest. all of them lived subsistence-based lives, growing and gathering all the food they consume, cutting all the wood they use, and fetching all the water they drink. the history of these karen communities with the forest was one of harmony and sustainability. they always have lived with the forest and their lifestyles have not been destructive to the ecosystems they inhabit. but the government begs to differ.

Acadia has a great post up on sustainability, biodiversity and culture:

Before coming to Mae Hong Son and after spending a week reading and discussing the Karen and political ecology, I assumed that the attitude of the Karen toward natural resources would be born of subsistence necessity and utilitarianism. Now, I see that the situation is much more complex. Outside forces, such as the central Thai state, world religions, and the global economy have caused reactions from these mountain communities that have moved them away from traditional relationships with the natural world and toward a redefined culture-ecology connection. For example, increasing state control in conservation areas that are also home to Karen villages have caused the villages to systematically classify and distinguish their lands into different use areas in order to show that they are not pillaging the landscape as is commonly portrayed and also to lay claim to lands that might otherwise be taken away.